1. Background
I am an undergraduate from Indiana University despite being the age of a grad student. I should have graduated by now, but my obsession with research prevents me from moving forward. There is a chance that I might have a learning disability since writing isn’t very easy for me.
As I’ve been in and out of college, I never got the chance to rigorously learn the subjects I’m researching. Most of what I learned was from Wikipedia, blogs and random research articles. I don’t know much of what I read but I learn what I can from questions on math stack exchange.
What I truly want, however; is for someone to take my ideas and publish them.
I warn that the definitions may not be rigorous so try to go easy on me. (I recommend using programming such as Mathematica to understand these definitions).
2. Preliminaries
Suppose A is a set measurable in the Carathèodory sense [6], such for , , and function .
2.1. Motivation
It seems the set of measurable functions with infinite or undefined expected values (def. 1), using the uniform measure [15, p.32-37], might be a prevalent subset [10,13] of the set of all measurable functions, meaning "almost every" measurable function has an infinite or undefined expected value. Furthermore, when the Lebesgue measure of A, measurable in the Caratheodory sense, has zero or infinite volume (or undefined measure), there might be multiple, conflicting ways of defining a "natural" uniform measure on A.
Below I will attempt to define a question regarding an extension of the expected value (when it’s undefined or infinite) which allows for a finite value instead.
Note the reason the question will be so long is there are plenty of “meaningless” extensions of the expected value (e.g. if the expected value is infinite or undefined we can just replace it with zero).
Therefore we must be more specific about what is meant by “meaningful” extension but there are some preliminary definitions we must clarify.
2.2. Preliminary Definitions
Definition 1
(Expected value w.r.t the Uniform Probability Measure) .
From an answer to a question in cross validated (a website for statistical questions) [9] , let denote a uniform random variable on set and denote the probability density function from the radon-nikodym derivative [2, p.419-427] of the uniform probability measure on A measurable in the Carathèodory sense. If denotes the indicator function on :
then the radon-nikodym derivative of uniform probability measure must have the form . (Note is not the derivative of U in the sense of calculus but is rather different from the uniform probability measure defined as U.)
Therefore, using the law of the unconscious statistician, we should get
such the expected value is undefined when A does not have a uniform probability distribution or f is not integrable w.r.t the measure .
Definition 2
(Defining the pre-structure) . Since there’s a chance that does not exist or f is not integrable w.r.t to , using def. 1 we define a pre-structure where if:
For all , exists (if A is countable infinite then for every , must be a finite set since is a discrete uniform distribution of ; otherwise, if A is uncountable, then is the normalized Lebesgue measure or another uniform measure on (e.g. [7]) such for every the Lebesgue measure or some other uniform measure on exists and is finite. [15, p.32-37].
For all , is positive and finite where is intrinsic. (For countably infinite A, is the counting measure where is positive and finite since is finite. For uncountable A, is the Lebesgue or radon-nikodym derivative on some other uniform measure on (e.g. [7]) where either of the measures on are positive or finite.)
is then apre-structure
of A, since for every the sequence does not equal A, but “approaches" A as r increases.
Definition 3
(Expected value of Pre-Structure) .
If is a pre-structure of A (def. 2), then for , if
we then have that the expected value of the pre-structure could be described as (def. 1) where:
Definition 4
(Uniform coverings of each term of the pre-structure) . We define the uniform ε coverings of each term of the pre-structure (def. 2) or as a group of pair-wise disjoint sets that cover for every , such the measure of each of the sets that cover have the same value of , where and the total sum for of the coverings is minimized. As a shortcut, if
and set Ω is defined as:
then for every , the set of uniform ε coverings is defined using the notation where ω “enumerates" all possible uniform ε coverings of for every .
Definition 5
(Sample of the uniform coverings of each term of the pre-structure) . The set of points, such for every and , we take a point from each of pair-wise disjoint set in the uniform ε coverings of each term of the pre-structure (def. 4) or . As a shortcut, if
and set is defined as:
then for every , the set of all samples of the set of uniform ε coverings is defined using the notation , where “enumerates" all possible samples of .
Definition 6
(Entropy on the sample of uniform coverings of each term of the pre-structure) . Since there are finitely many points in the sample of the uniform ε coverings of each term of pre-structure (def. 5), we:
Arrange the x-value of the points in the sample of uniform ε coverings from least to greatest. This is defined as:
Take the multi-set of the absolute differences between all consecutive pairs of elements in (1). This is defined as:
Normalize (2) into a probability distribution, where for multi-set X, we have as the cardinality of all elements in the multi-set, including repeated ones. This is defined as:
Take the entropy of (3), (for further reading, see [11, p.61-95]). This is defined as:
where (4) is the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings of .
Definition 7
(Pre-Structure Converging Uniformly to A) .
For every (
using def. 4, 5, and 6)
if set A is finite:
and if set A is non-finite:
we then say pre-structure converges uniformly
to A (or in shorter notation):
(Note we wish to define a uniform convergence of a sequence of sets to A since the definition is analogous to a uniform measure.)
Definition 8
(Equivalent Pre-Structures) .
The pre-structures and of A are equivalent if, from def. 3, ( and ) :
Definition 9
(Non-Equivalent Pre-Structures) .
The pre-structures and of A are non-equivalent if, from def. 3, ( and )
Definition 10
(Pre-Structures converging Sublinearly, Linearly, or Superlinearly to A compared to that of another Sequence) . Suppose pre-structures and are non-equivalent and converge uniformly to A; and suppose for every , where and :
- (a)
-
We take the cardinality of the sample of the uniform ε coverings of (def. 5) divided by the smallest cardinality of the sample of the uniform ε coverings of (def. 5), where the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on (def. 6) is larger than the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on (def. 6). In other words, if:
then the ratio at the beginning of the paragraph is defined (using 8) as
- (b)
-
We take the cardinality of the sample of uniform ε covering of (def. 5) divided by the largest cardinality of the sample of the uniform ε covering of (def. 5), where the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on (def. 6) is smaller then the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on (def. 6). In other words if:
then the ratio at the beginning of the paragraph is defined (using 10) as
1.
If using equations 9 and 11 we have that:
we say converges uniformly to A at a
superlinear rate
to that of .
2.
If using equations 9 and 11 we have that:
we say converges uniformly to A at a
linear rate
to that of .
3.
If using equations 9 and 11 we have that:
we say converges uniformly to A at a
sublinear rate
to that of .
I assume and are always equal but I’m not sure how to prove this.
2.3. Question on Preliminary Definitions
- 1.
Are there “simpler" alternatives to either of the preliminary definitions? (Keep this in mind as we continue reading forward).
3. Main Question
Does there exist a unique extension (or a method that constructively defines a unique extension) of the expected value of f when the value’s finite, using the radon-nikodym derivative [2, p.419-427] of the uniform probability measure [15, p.32-37] on sets measurable in the Carathèodory sense, such we replace f with infinite or undefined expected values with f defined on a chosen pre-structure, which depends on A (def. 2) where:
- 1.
The expected value of f on each term of the pre-structure is finite
- 2.
The pre-structure converges uniformly to A
- 3.
The pre-structure converges uniformly to A at a linear or superlinear rate to that of other non-equivalent pre-structures of A which satisfies (1) and (2).
- 4.
The generalized expected value of f [1] on the pre-structure which satisfies (1), (2), and (3) is finite
- 5.
A choice function is defined which chooses a pre-structure from A, which satisfies (1), (2), (3), and (4) such the generalized expected value of f [1] on this pre-structure unique & finite for the largest possible subset of .
- 6.
Out of all the choice functions which satisfy (1), (2), (3), (4) and (5), we choose the choice function with the “simplest form", meaning for a general pre-structure of A, when each choice function is fully expanded, we take the choice function with the fewest variables/numbers (excluding those with quantifiers) for which the variables are added and exponentiated by infinitesimal amounts and multiplied by the difference of one and infinitesimal amount.
How do we answer this question?
4. Informal Attempt to Answer Main Question
(I advise using computer programmings such as Mathematica, Python, JavaScript, or Matlab to understand the definitions of the answer below.)
4.1. Choice Function
Suppose is the set of all pre-structures of A which satisfy criteria (1) and (2) of the question in sec. 3 where the expected value of the pre-structures, as they converge uniformly to A is finite (def. 7), where the pre-structure should be a sequence of sets that satisfy criteria (1), (2), (3), (4), and (5) of the question with also being an element of but not in the set of equivelant pre-structures of . (Note that I’m unsure if the choice function that I’ll define satisfies criteria (6)).
Further note from (a), with equation 8 in def. 10, we represent the “smallest cardinality of the sample of the uniform
covering of
(def. 5), where the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on
(def. 6) is larger the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on
(def. 6)" to be defined as follows:
and from (b), with equation 10 in def. 10, we represent the “largest cardinality of the sample of the uniform
covering of
(def. 5), where the entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on
(def. 6) is smaller then the modified entropy on the sample of uniform coverings on
(def. 6)" to be defined as follows:
Therefore, using def. 5 and equations 12 and 13, if we take:
and we take:
such that
then, using equations 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18, for the nearest integer function
of equations that replace × (and the absolute value function
of equations that replace ×) we want:
such, using equations 16 and 19, if set
, the choice function is the following set (when the set contains only one element):
4.2. Questions on Choice Function
Suppose for
,
represents the
k-th iteration of the choice function of
A, e.g.
, where the infinite iteration of
(if it exists) is
. Therefore, when taking the following:
- 1.
-
What unique pre-structure would contain (if it exists) for:
- (a)
where if , we want
- (b)
where if , we want
- (c)
where we’re not sure what would be in this case. What would be if it’s unique?
- 2.
-
There could be a total of 120 variables in the choice function C (excluding quantifiers). Is there a choice function with fewer variables that answers criteria (1), (2), (3), (4) & (5) of the question in sec. 3 for a "larger" subset of ? (This might be impossible to answer since such a solution cannot be shown with prevalence or shyness [10,13]). Therefore, we need a more precise version of “size" with some examples (as shown in this answer [8]) being the following:
- (a)
Fractal Dimension notions
- (b)
Kolmogorov Entropy
- (c)
Baire Category and Porosity
4.3. Generalized Expected Values
Using the choice function in
Section 4.1, if the image of
f under
A is
, we take
and then take the pre-image under
f of
(which is defined as
) where from def. 7:
However, the expected value of
(def. 3) may be infinite (e.g. unbounded
f). Hence, for every
, we take
where using def. 7:
Thus, if there exists a unique and finite
where:
Then
is the
generalized expected value w.r.t choice function C , which answers criteria (1), (2), (3), (4), (perhaps (5)) of the question in sec. 3; however, there is still a chance that the equation 21 fails to give an unique
. Hence; if
, we take the
k-th iteration of the choice function
C in 20, such there exists a
, where for all
, the new expected value
(or the
generalized expected value w.r.t finitely iterated C ) is unique and finite.
Hence, if the
k-th iteration of
C is represent as
(where e.g.
), we want a unique
where:
If this still does not give a unique and finite expected value, we then take the
most generalized expected value w.r.t an infinitely iterated C i.e.
where if the
infinite iteration of
C is stated as
, we then take:
However, the averages , , and in equations 21, 22, and 23 (respectively) should only be attempted for functions where the expected value is infinite or undefined or for worst-case functions —poorly behaved (where for , , where f is a function) defined on infinite points covering an infinite expanse of space. For example:
- 1.
For a worst-case f defined on countably infinite A (e.g. countably infinite "pseudo-random points" non-uniformly scattered across the real plane), one might typically use (since countable sets may need just one iteration of C for the generalized expected value to be unique); otherwise, one may use for finite iterations of C.
- 2.
For a worst-case f defined on uncountable A, we may have to use as the function is so difficult to analyze. We can imagine this function as an uncountable number of "pseudo-random" points non-uniformly generated on a subset of the real plane (see 5.1 for a visualization.)
Note that no matter how generalized and “meaningful" the extension of an expected value is, there will always be an f where the expected value does not exist.
4.4. Questions Regarding The Answer
- 1.
-
Using prevalence and shyness [10,13], can we say the set of f where , , or are unique and finite form either a prevalent or neither prevalent nor shy subset of . (If the subset is prevalent, this implies the generalized expected values are unique and finite for a “large" subset of ; however, if the subset is neither prevalent nor shy we need a more precise definition of “size" which takes “an exact probability that the expected values are unique & finite"—some examples (as shown in this answer [8]) being:
- (a)
Fractal Dimension notions
- (b)
Kolmogorov Entropy
- (c)
Baire Category and Porosity
- 2.
Can either , , or (when A is the set of all Liouville numbers & ) give a finite value on the Liouville numbers? What would the value be?
- 3.
Similar to how def. 11 approximates the expected value in def. 1, how do approximate , , and ?
- 4.
Can we use programming to estimate , , and (if a unique and finite results exists)?
4.5. Application
- 1.
-
In Quanta magazine [3], Wood writes on Feynman Path Integrals: “No known mathematical procedure can meaningfully average[2] an infinite number of objects covering an infinite expanse of space in general. The path integral is more of a physics philosophy than an exact mathematical recipe."—despite Wood’s statement, mathematicians Bottazzi E. and Eskew M. [5] found a constructive solution to the statement using integrals defined on filters over families of finite sets; however, the solution was not unique as one has to choose a value in a partially ordered ring of infinite and infinitesimal elements. In addition, although there were ways of preventing the use of the axiom of choice (within their integral), the axiom was still required for certain cases.
- (a)
Perhaps, if Botazzi’s and Eskew’s Filter integral [5] is not enough to solve Wood’s statement, could we replace the path integral with expected values , , and ? (See, again, sec. 5.1 for a visualization.)
- 2.
-
As stated in sec. 2.1, “when the Lebesgue measure of A, measurable in the Caratheodory sense, has zero or infinite volume (or undefined measure), there may be multiple, conflicting ways of defining a "natural" uniform measure on A." This is an example of Bertand’s Paradox which shows, "the principle of indifference (that allows equal probability among all possible outcomes when no other information is given) may not produce definite, well-defined results for probabilities if applied uncritically when the domain of possibilities (i.e. sample space) is infinite [14].
Using sec. 4.2, perhaps if we take:
then for
, if
if we have the following:
Then
might serve as a solution to Bertand’s Paradox (unless there is a simpler solution to the main question in sec.
Section 3).
- (a)
-
How do we apply (or a simpler solution) to the usual example which demonstrates the Bertand’s Paradox as follows: for an equilateral triangle (inscribed in a circle), suppose a chord of the circle is chosen at random—what is the probability that the chord is longer than a side of the triangle? [4] (According to Bertand’s Paradox there are three arguments which correctly use the principle of indifference yet give different solutions to this problem [4]:
- i.
The “random endpoints" method: Choose two random points on the circumference of the circle and draw the chord joining them. To calculate the probability in question imagine the triangle rotated so its vertex coincides with one of the chord endpoints. Observe that if the other chord endpoint lies on the arc between the endpoints of the triangle side opposite the first point, the chord is longer than a side of the triangle. The length of the arc is one-third of the circumference of the circle, therefore the probability that a random chord is longer than a side of the inscribed triangle is .
- ii.
The "random radial point" method: Choose a radius of the circle, choose a point on the radius, and construct the chord through this point and perpendicular to the radius. To calculate the probability in question imagine the triangle rotated so a side is perpendicular to the radius. The chord is longer than a side of the triangle if the chosen point is nearer the center of the circle than the point where the side of the triangle intersects the radius. The side of the triangle bisects the radius, therefore the probability a random chord is longer than a side of the inscribed triangle is .
- iii.
The "random midpoint" method: Choose a point anywhere within the circle and construct a chord with the chosen point as its midpoint. The chord is longer than a side of the inscribed triangle if the chosen point falls within a concentric circle of radius the radius of the larger circle. The area of the smaller circle is one-fourth the area of the larger circle, therefore the probability a random chord is longer than a side of the inscribed triangle is .
5. Glossary
5.1. Example of Case (2) of Worst Case Functions
(If the explanation below is difficult to understand, see this visualization to accompany the explanation [1], then when changing the sliders each time, wait a couple of seconds for the graph to load.)
We wish to create a function that appears to be a “pseudo-randomly" distributed but has infinite points that are non-uniform (i.e. does not have complete spatial randomness [12]) in the sub-space of , where the expected value or integral of the function w.r.t uniform probability measure [15][ p.32-37] is non-obvious (i.e. not the center of the space the function covers nor the area of that space).
Suppose for real numbers and , we generate an uncountable number of "nearly pseudo-random" points that are non-uniform in the subspace .
We define the function as .
Now suppose where the base-b expansion of real numbers, in interval , have infinite decimals that approach x from the right side so when we get .
Furthermore, for
, if
and
is a function where
takes the digit in the
-th decimal fraction of the base-
b expansion of
x (e.g.
), then
is a sequence of functions such that
is defined to be:
then for some large
and
, the intermediate function (before
f) or
is defined to be
where the points in
are "almost pseudo-randomly" and non-uniformly distributed on
. What we did was convert every digit of the base-
b expansion of
x to a pseudo-random number that is non-equally likely to be an integer, including and also in-between, 0 and
. Furthermore, we make the function truly “appear pseudo-random", by adding the
-th decimal fraction with the next
k decimal fractions; however, we also want to control the end-points of
such if
, we convert
to
by manipulating equation 26 to get:
such that the larger
k is, the more pseudo-random the distribution of points in
f in the space
but unlike most distributions of these points,
f is uncountable.
5.2. Question Regarding Case (2) of The Worst Case Function
Let us be more specific, suppose for the function in equation 27 of sec.
Section 5.1, we have:
(one could try simpler parameters); what is the expected value using either , or if the answer is finite and unique?
What about for f in general (i.e. in terms of b, , , , and k)?
(Note if and , then the function is an explicit example of the function that Wood [3] describes in Quanta Magazine)
5.3. Approximating the Expected Value
Definition 11
(Approximating the Expected Value) .
In practice, the computation of this expected value may be complicated if the set A is complicated. If analytic integration does not give a closed-form solution then a general and relatively simple way to compute the expected value (up to high accuracy) is with importance sampling. To do this, we produce values for some density function g with support (hopefully with support fairly close to A) and we use the estimator:
From the law of large numbers, we can establish that so if we take M to be large then we should get a reasonably good computation of the expected value of interest.
Note importance sampling requires three things:
- 1.
We need to know when point x is in set A or not
- 2.
We need to be able to generate points from a density g that is on a support that covers A but is not too much bigger than A
- 3.
We have to be able to compute and for each point
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[1] |
The result of algebraic manipulation (see Section 4.1 & Section 4.3 after reading the question) of the expected value of f on some chosen pre-structure (def. 3) that’s unique and finite for the largest possible subset of . |
[2] |
Meaningful Average—The measure inside the average is canonical when the measure is normalized as a uniform probability measure [15] |
[3] |
Wood wrote on Feynman Path Integrals: “No known mathematical procedure can meaningfully average [2] an infinite number of objects covering an infinite expanse of space in general." |
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